JeSuiTS, VaTiCaN, iSLaM, PLaNNeD FaLSe MeSSiaH & ReLiGioN

I was asked by a friend earlier today how long I’ve been investigating the New World Order, somehow my reply ended up going off on this tangent, directed by one of my many current lines of research.

Bear in mind that the Jesuits are the (covertly Luciferian at the top levels) “Roman Catholic” Society of Jesus. They control both the Vatican & therefore covertly direct Catholicism (followers 1 billion) & the international secret society network (largely via the Knights of Malta & high-level Freemasonry, Masonry being a false enemy of the Vatican).

The Jesuits & Vatican also control & manipulate (Labor) Zionism (the Sabbatains), Islamic & Arab leaders (e.g. the P.L.O. – the Palestinian Liberation Organisation – has had an office in the Vatican since 1994), thus having covert influence over another billion! (For the Vatican-P.L.O. sleeping arrangements, see:

This beast system despises Bible-believing Christians, Torah-faithful Jews & Koran-following Muslims. Their almost-certainly planned World War 3 will take out the bulk of these populations & their being-trained-as-we-breathe false Messiah will then rule the Luciferian New World Religion.

Anyway, this is how I initially started out my response:

How long? Mmmm, Okay. About 4 & a half years. That was hard to work out, then I remembered that I’d written the date that I’d purchased David Icke’s “Alice in Wonderland & the World Trade Center Disaster” book: Nov 24 2003 (I’ve never done this before, but I found the receipt recently & realized that that book set me off on investigating the true nature of what we call the New World Order). It is surprisingly good & if you rip out the last chapter I’d say that it’s still the best work on 9/11 out there!).

I didn’t have internet back then & in fact only got it at home a little over a year ago. I mainly read loads & loads of books for the first three years of my indepth “reality research”.

I now conclude that Icke works for British intelligence for many reasons, the most obvious being that despite most of what he says being legit (discounting the “Jesus is the Sun” Masonic myth & the Zechariah Sitchen (mis)”translations” that Icke pedals), Icke’s reptilian schtick crumbles on rigorous analysis of his literary & verbal sources. This then diverts attention on a non-tangible false “reality”. I’m not saying that reptilians don’t exist in any dimensional reality, just that the elites do not shape shift into them. Maintaining the bloodline is not so that they can shape-shift, it’s to preserve the messianic bloodline, whether that of Christ or Antichrist.

One thing is sure: within the next few years the Vatican & Islamic leaders will proclaim the new messiah. Zagami is correct when he says this, but he is not alone. There are “from the horse’s mouth” verifiable statements from the likes of Harun Yahya, the very influential Illuminati Turkish Muslim thinker/manipulator, on his own website. Illuminati Turkish Sufi, Fethullah Gulen, whose movement’s following is in the millions, has proclaimed that this is the end times. Gulen is a Vatican/C-I-A asset. Zagami, to his credit, has worked hard to expose these false prophets in recent times.

This is what we’re up against. The Vatican & Islamic leaders combining to bring forth a (they hope) manipulated Messiah. Even Tsarion, that counter-intelligence diversionary (they always reveal some genuine gems of knowledge) is correct in stating that he believes that the Vatican will bring forth a fabricated Messiah.



* Jesus Will Return – Harun Yahya – 34 min 15 sec

(Note the “Jesus, son of Mary” quotes. One clear giveaway among many that the Vatican created Islam via their agent Muhammed, this is their religion for “people of colour”, to fight true Judaism & true Bible-believing Christianity, which Satanic Catholicism is the counterfeit of).

* Harun Yahya – The End Times & the Hour

* Harun Yahya’s website

(Read the scrolling text at the top of page)

(Note that, like the Vatican, Harun Yahya’s open but false policy is to be antimasonic, his secret but true policy is promasonic).

* Harun Yahya’s Wikipedia entry:

Ignore Yahya’s rhetoric against anti-Semitism: covert agenda, not overt ideology, is the name of the game for political & religious movers & shakers.

This, from WikiP, is a true reflection of Adnan Oktar/Harun Yahya’s influence:


In April 2007, Oktar filed a libel lawsuit against the owners of ek$i sözlük, a virtual community similar to everything2. The court reviewed the complaint and ordered the service provider to close the site to public access. The site was temporarily suspended so the entry on Oktar could be expunged and locked. Access to another news website was also restricted following Oktar’s complaint.

In August of the same year, Oktar was able to get a Turkish court to block internet access to to all of Turkey. His lawyers argued that blogs on contained libelous material on Oktar and his colleague which staff was unwilling to remove.”


* British Lords Introduced to Fethullah Gülen’s Concepts –
Notes from Conference on Gulen Movement in London

3 min 31 sec

Jesuit “Father” Thomas Michel, Jesuit “Inter-religious dialogue” Director (Note: Vatican-created “inter-religious dialogue is ecumenicalism, which is the Vatican’s anti-Christ trojan horse for their forthcoming Luciferian One World Religion), promoting the Gulen Movement,
along with Dr Marcia Hermansen of LOYOLA University (Ignatius Loyola being the founder of the Jesuits, nearly 500 years ago).

* Gulen Movement Video Clips, incl. another with Fr. Thomas Michel, of the Jesuits.




Meeting with the Pope John Paul II

Interview with Prof. Niyazi Oktem on This Meeting

Q: Why is that meeting so important?

A: It is of global import. First of all, the West has a very negative image of Muslims. In their eyes, Muslims are unproductive, consumers [only], implacable, and inclined to terrorism. And [they see] Islam as the religion responsible for such vices. So, a religious leader’s meeting with the Pope at just this time means that he is ready to enter a dialogue with Christians and that Islam is not closed to dialogue. This meeting also contradicts those Europeans who allege that Muslims are too radical to enter a dialogue and offer that as an excuse for not allowing Turkey to join the EU.

Q: Some question Mr. Gulen’s status [his worthiness] to meet with the Pope.

A: This is a matter for the Pope not us. But it seems that the Vatican knows Mr. Gulen better than us. The Pope does not accept everyone’s request for a meeting. Besides, his appointments are arranged years in advance. Mr. Gulen’s meeting with the Pope was arranged last year, which shows that the Vatican considers him an important person.

Personally, I regard this meeting as one of the most important events of the twentieth century. Although at first glance it seems to be a simple event, it will have far-reaching consequences, for positive, important changes in world history [often] have been started and realized by those wholly dedicated to a cause, not the official actors in state structures. Those people may not have official titles, but they have a power resting upon the love of their followers. Gulen has a large following. People agree with him on his initiative. I wish the state would give him greater support. I worry about certain fundamentalist movements in Turkey. Gulen’s calls for dialogue make the atmosphere more peaceful and propitious for the coming together of opposing groups. Our ambassador’s welcoming him shows that important power centers in the state support him.

Q: What do you think about the proposals Mr. Gulen made to the Pope?

A: It is very meaningful that Muslims and Christians celebrate the 2,000th anniversary of Jesus’ birth. As Jesus has a significant place in the Qur’an and Islam, cities such as Antioch, Ephesus, and Jerusalem have a great deal of meaning to both Muslims and Christians. Gulen suggested to the Pope that they visit those cities together. He proposed that Jerusalem be a city that the followers of the three religions could visit without a visa, and that they hold conferences in different cities. He also proposed opening a university or a faculty of theology in Urfa, where scholars from the three religions would teach and students would study. All of these offers are of great significance for promoting dialogue, peace, and mutual understanding.


Two Important Points in Gulen-Pope Meeting

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First of all, Fethullah Hodjaefendi’s recommendations to the Pope:

· As Christianity is entering its third millennium, mutual visits should be made to such sacred Middle Eastern places as Antioch, Tarsus, Ephesus, and Jerusalem.

· Efforts should be made to declare Jerusalem an international district so that Christians, Jews, and Muslims can freely visit without limitations or a visa.

· With the cooperation of Christian, Jewish, and Muslim leaders, conferences should be arranged in various capitals, beginning in America.

· An independent university should be founded at Harran to meet these three religions’ needs. In addition, there should be a student exchange program between the Christian and Islamic worlds.

These are Hodjaefendi’s recommendations. If they are realized, cooperative dialogue among these three religions will become more stable, fanaticism will drown, and Turkey will become a global focal point of religions.

In particular, the suggestion to make Harran a center of religious knowledge is a magnificent suggestion that will deter the difficulties we’re having in the Southeast. It also will contribute to global peace and open the way to healing wounds with “celestial compassion.” It should be supported.

Fethullah Hodja [presumably an affectionate name for Fehtullah Gulen] did what was expected of him, and made his master happy by being an exemplary “loyal disciple.”


Fethullah Gulen on His Meeting with the Pope

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Saturday, 14 February 1998

Q: What was the process that finally made it possible for you to meet with the Pope?

A: One cannot achieve something positive in an atmosphere dominated by enmity and through reactionary measures. As social and civilized beings, especially in our day when human values are given prominence even though rather verbally, we can and should solve our problems through dialogue. It is our belief, which also is shared by sociologists and political analysts, that religions will be more influential in the twenty-first century. Islam and Christianity have the largest followings. Buddhism and Hinduism also have considerable followings. Judaism has an influence of its own. If we expect a universal revival toward the end of time, then this requires, as a preliminary condition, that thse great religions cooperate on the essentials that they have in common.

We have no doubt about the truth of our values. We urge no one to join us, and I think that no one conceives of urging us to join their religion. The Qur’an made a universal call of dialogue to the followers of other heavenly religions. Unfortunately, however, the centuries following this call saw conflict and quarrels rather than dialogue and mutual understanding. Our time is the time of addressing intellects and hearts, an undertaking that requires a peaceful atmosphere with mutual trust and respect. At first glance, the conditions of the Hudaybiya Treaty seemed unacceptable to the Companions. However, the Qur’an described it as an opening, because in the peaceful atmosphere engendered by this treaty, the doors of hearts were opened to Islamic truths. We have no intention to conquer lands or peoples, but we are resolved to contribute to world peace and a peaceful order and harmony by which our old world will find a last happiness before its final destruction.





Fethullah Gülen
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Philosophy and activities

Gülen’s published works in the 1990s advocated dialogue among communities and faiths, tolerance, and acceptance of others.[8] He personally met with religious leaders, including Pope John Paul II, the Greek Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomeos, and Israeli Sephardic Head Rabbi Eliyahu Bakshi-Doron.[9]

According to Gülen his theological views lie solidly within the Turkish Sunni mainstream while being more responsive to modern world than other Islamic movements[citation needed]. It should be noted, however, he has also adopted the views and mystical tradition of founder of the Nur (light) movement, Said Nursi, as evident in his highly emotional sermons.

Gülen claims the modern world is plagued by individuals’ lack of faith, and in particular, the failure adopt scientific methods while preserving moral values and belief in God.[citation needed] Gülen argues that faith can be scientifically proven, and science benefits from or requires a moral foundation from religion.[citation needed]

He has guided his supporters to open about 500 educational institutions in more than 90 countries in Eurasia, Africa and North America.[10][11]

[edit] Gülen movement

Gülen movement consists of volunteer based organizations which are ideologically connected into a network by the leadership of Gülen.[12] The movement is run by volunteers, who most of the time were educated or received support from the institutions founded by the movement. The volunteers run more than a thousand schools all over the world. There is a school almost in every country of the world. In these schools children from different ethnicities and cultural backgrounds are educated by mainly Turkish educators. It has founded universities of its own, an employers’ association[citation needed], unions[citation needed], and hundreds of sub-organizations, lobby groups, and student bodies. The movement as a whole counts several hundred thousand of members, making it one of the largest Islamic movements in Turkey.[13]

One of the main caracteristic of the movement is that; it is faith-oriented but not faith-limited. There are many Christians, even at the community leadership level, in several countries feel themselves close to or inspired by the movement.


Gülen is a highly controversial figure in Turkey. Despite his large number of followers and significant influence in Turkish society and politics, he has been living in the US for several years. While his followers and a significant part of Turkish society respects him as a humanistic figure at the service of Islam, a large fraction of society perceives him as a significant threat who aims to transform the country’s secular system, allegedly by gaining followers in high places and brainwashing school children[14].

In 1998 a scandal developed in which Gülen was claimed to have urged his followers in the judiciary and public service to “work patiently to take control of the state.”[15] Several months before this scandal broke, Gülen had moved to the United States, apparently to receive better treatment for his severe health problems (he suffers from diabetes and a range of its side effects) though some allege that this move was made to avoid his standing trial in person. In 2000 Gülen was prosecuted for inciting his followers to plot the overthrow of Turkey’s secular government. He was acquitted in 2006.[16]

The authenticity of the tapes used in the scandal are debated. Gülen himself explained that the footage in question was completely taken out of context (he was giving advice to a group of official employees who felt marginalized by other groups within the state system that wanted them gone), and that he can’t be judged for intents, only deeds.[17] Accordingly, he advised them that they should not relinquish their careers out of religious fervour but that they should remain in order to do good for the people, even if this meant not practicing their religion in the open. However, critics of Gülen argue, Gülen’s own writings, some of which is quoted below, are in accordance with the ideas mentioned in the tapes; he pushes to make Islam the guiding principle in society while at the same time advising his followers caution and an embracing attitude until the conditions are ripe[4].

Gülen’s appeal to various ideological strands in Turkey differs. His supporters probably constitute the most influential Islamic movement in Turkey both for its human and financial capital. Various other shades of the Islamic movement and conservative segments of society are generally sympathetic to him. His detractors are mostly in the nationalistic wing of the secularists, critical of his alleged affinity for a theocratic society and his ties to the US. For the elites, the ranks are broken by certain liberals, who point out that Gülen’s group, at least in its public representation, has proven to be most willing to evolve and most open to international influence.

Due to its spearheading westernization and secularization since the late Ottoman era, and later founding the secular republic under the leadership of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the army has always viewed Islamic movements with suspicion and since the 1980s has identified Gülen’s group as a threat to the republic. In 1986, a military court revealed Gülen’s supporters had infiltrated the military academy and the group was purged[5]. From then on, the Turkish army has repeatedly alleged that Gülen tries to infitrate its ranks and pressured politicians to take action against Gülen[6][7]. In response, Gülen has praised the army publicly various times and attempted to allay its fears about the group’s intentions, but the tension remained [8].

Gülen was widely criticized in 2004 when he, in contrast with his public calls for tolerance, commented that he considered terrorism to be equally despicable as atheism.[18] In a follow-up interview he declared he did not intent to equate athesists and murderers; rather, he wanted to highlight the fact that according Islam both were destined to suffer eternal punishment in hell.[9] Gülen does not deny the idea that there is Islamist terrorism,[19] that is, he agrees that such terrorism exists but argues that Islamist (a violent deviation from the true path) is not Islamic or Muslim, and has written an article in response to the September 11 attacks[20] saying:

We condemn in the strongest of terms the latest terrorist attack on the United States of America, and feel the pain of the American people at the bottom of our hearts.[21]

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